to CarolAnn49 :Yeah, I know. But for me and most lifestyle people it is a part of our life we keep hidden. I was in a couple of videos long ago and thank god I never saw them on these platforms. I had jobs, businesses, most of my relationships outside the lifestyle would be appalled, and they are important to me. So this is a separate community and an invisible one. That's why when I (we) occasionally went to swinger clubs or party houses it felt so freeing and natural. We were visible and not judged. Felt great.